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MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay. Okay. Now Shrimati Gundu Sudharani. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI MADHUSUDAN MISTRY: Sir, we want a response on this. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Yes, Mr. O’Brien.

SHRI DEREK O’BRIEN: Sir, my point is on the Business Today.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: But I have already called Zero Hour.

SHRI DEREK O’BRIEN: Please. I want to draw your attention to something important because we don’t want this House to be taken for granted. Yesterday’s List of Business had listed a discussion on the Working of the Ministry of Law and Justice to be initiated, as we had decided, by a Member of the Congress Party.

(Contd. by 1d/SKC)

SKC/1D/11.15

SHRI DEREK O'BRIEN (contd.): Right? Now, two-three Ministries are going to be discussed, like the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment, which were not listed till last night. Sir, today, 'Discussion on the working of the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment' has been listed in the morning . It was given to the Trinamool Congress to initiate this discussion. Sir, at 10.30 in the night – and this is no fault of the Secretariat – we are getting a call saying that this is going to be listed in the Business, you may please give your name to initiate the discussion. Sir, for a serious discussion like this, (a) no one is prepared to speak today, and (b) the House is being taken for granted. The name of the person moving the discussion is not there because no name has been given. So, zor zabardasti is being done. Don't bulldoze. I would request the Government to plan this better and not push it at 10.20 p.m. and get the Secretariat and Secretary-General to call us. Please do not take up this discussion today. Please take up the discussion on the Ministry of Law and Justice and let us follow some basic rules and parampara. Thank you.

(Ends)


SHRI A. NAVANEETHAKRISHNAN: Sir, I support the views expressed by the hon. Member. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, no. ...(Interruptions)... There is another point. When the subject is given to a Party to seek names for initiating a discussion, they should give their names in advance. They should not wait for the Secretariat to call. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI DEREK O'BRIEN: No, Sir. It is not listed. Please understand. The call came at 10.20 in the night. It is not even listed. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI A. NAVANEETHAKRISHNAN: Sir, advance intimation must be given. He is very fair in his demand. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I got the point. ...(Interruptions)... That is okay. Agreed. Now, Shrimati Gundu Sudharani. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, let me say something.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is for the Government to say. You are from the Government side.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Yes, Sir. ...(Interruptions)... But I can make my observation. ...(Interruptions)... As a Member, I have the right to say something on the issue.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You may give a Zero Hour notice then.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: No, Sir. This is on what has come up. A lot of people have mentioned something on that.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You are from the Treasury Benches! ...(Interruptions)... You are from the Treasury Benches. So, you must be giving a reply to this question.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, nobody can stop me from making an observation. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Okay.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, an issue has been raised.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You could only join. That is what I am saying. You can join with this.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, I am not going with them. An issue has been raised.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Then, you could raise it later. The Minister can reply.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, an issue has been raised by Shri Anand Sharma, and he has talked about the Standing Committees.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let the Minister reply. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, they are Ministers. They would naturally put their views across, but, as a Member, I am putting my views.

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No. You cannot do that now. ...(Interruptions)...

SHRI SATISH CHANDRA MISRA: Sir, he may associate.

SHRI V. P. SINGH BADNORE: Sir, I am not associating. ...(Interruptions)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: That is the point you must accept! Now, Shrimati Gundu Sudharani.

NEED FOR BRINGING ALL MEDICINES UNDER NATIONAL PHARMACEUTICAL PRICING AUTHORITY

SHRIMATI GUNDU SUDHARANI (TELANGANA): Sir, medicines play a pivotal role in the life of a human being as they bring a person back from the death knell. The WHO defines medicines as those drugs that satisfy the healthcare needs of the majority of the population. They should, therefore, be available at all times in adequate amounts, in appropriate dosage forms and at a price the community can afford.

The Government of India has been, from time to time, bringing medicines under the National List of Essential Medicines and selling them to people at affordable prices. The authority for this purpose has been given to the NPPA. Now, the Government has brought 509 medicines under the Essential Drugs List. Apart from the NLEM, Government is also selling 504 medicines through the Jan Aushadhi stores at a cheaper price for the poor and downtrodden.

Sir, medicines are medicines. There should not be any distinction between essential medicines and other medicines as every medicine is a life-saver. This view has been substantiated even by the Standing Committee on Chemicals and Fertilizers in its recent Report. The Committee was shocked as to how the Government could say that only 509 medicines are essential and the rest of them are not. Even people from all sections have been demanding for decades treatment of all medicines as essential medicines. Secondly, import of medicines is also adding to the cost of medicines and is one of the reasons for the high prices of drugs. This has to be reduced to a minimum level. The hon. Prime Minister has rightly initiated the 'Make in India' campaign. As we are the leaders in generic drugs in the world and supply medicines at even one-tenth of what they cost in advanced countries, all the drug manufacturers need to give more preference to the manufacture of drugs within the country in bulk quantity as a part of the 'Make in India' initiative and reduce its imports, so that people get medicines at an affordable price.

(CONTD. BY KSK/1E)


KSK-KLG/1E/11.20

SHRIMATI GUNDU SUDHARANI (CONTD.): In view of the above, I request the Government of India to include all the medicines under the National List of Essential Medicines, apart from 509 already included, and make every medicine affordable to the poor people of this country. (Ends)

CONTINUED ATTACKS BY NAXALITES ON PARA-MILITARY

FORCES IN CHHATTISGARH

श्री प्रमोद तिवारी (उत्तर प्रदेश): उपसभापति महोदय, जब से केन्द्र में भारतीय जनता पार्टी की सरकार आई है, तब से आतंकवादी गतिविधियों और नक्सलवादी गतिविधियों में बहुत वृद्धि हुई है। मैं छत्तीसगढ़ राज्य की 11 अप्रैल, 2015 की घटना का जिक्र करना चाहता हूँ, जब सुकमा में कमांडर सहित 7 सीआरपीएफ के जवानों को नक्सलियों ने मार दिया। इसमें सबसे शर्मनाक और दुखद बात तो यह है कि छत्तीसगढ़ में घटित इस घटना के 38 घंटे तक जवानों के शव जंगली जानवरों के और नक्सलियों के रहमो-करम पर जंगल में पड़े रहे, वहां से उन शवों को भी समय पर नहीं उठाया गया। छत्तीसगढ़ सरकार की यह स्थिति है, जिसके जिम्मे सुरक्षा की जिम्मेदारी थी।

मान्यवर, 11 अप्रैल को यह घटना होती है, फिर 12 अप्रैल को बरबसपुर में 17 वाहनों को तोड़ दिया गया, बीएसएफ के कैम्प में घुसकर एक जवान को गोली मारी गई। अभी तक जंगल में ऐसा हो रहा था, अब इनके आने के बाद बीएसएफ के कैम्पों में जाकर ऐसा हो रहा है। नक्सलियों की इतनी हिम्मत बढ़ गई है,उनके हौसले इतने बुलंद हैं कि वे उनके कैम्पों में जाकर गोली मार रहे हैं। इतना ही नहीं, 11 अप्रैल और 12 अप्रैल को यह होता है, फिर 13 अप्रैल को छत्तीसगढ़ के दंतेवाड़ा में, वही राज्य, वही क्षेत्र, तीसरी घटना होती है, जहां 7 जवानों को मार दिया जाता है। लगातार इस तरह का प्रयास हो रहा है। यह वही छत्तीसगढ़ है, जहां हमारे कांग्रेस के सारे नेतृत्व को छत्तीसगढ़ पुलिस ने एक सुनियोजित * में मरवा दिया था। यह वही राज्य है, यहां वही परिस्थितियां हैं। छत्तीसगढ़ सरकार की जिम्मेदारी बनती है कि वह उनको नक्शे मुहैया कराए, लोकल इंटेलीजेन्स दे और वहां पर उनको गाइड करे। ...(व्यवधान)...



श्री अनिल माधव दवे: सर, इस तरह से नहीं कहा जा सकता कि वहां पर कांग्रेस नेताओं को इस तरह...(व्यवधान)...

श्री बी.के. हरिप्रसाद: कोई वहां पर सरकार नहीं है। ...(व्यवधान)

श्रीमती रेणुका चौधरी: आपको पता ही नहीं है कि कितने लोग मार दिए गए छत्तीसगढ़ में। ...(व्यवधान)...

*Expunged as ordered by the Chair.
श्री प्रमोद तिवारी: मैं बहुत स्पष्ट कहना चाहता हूँ। ...(व्यवधान).. मैं किसी सरकार का जिक्र नहीं कर रहा हूँ, वहां सरकार नाम की चीज ही नहीं है। छत्तीसगढ़ सरकार पूरी तरह से * से मिली हुई है और केन्द्र सरकार * को बढ़ा रही है। इसलिए नहीं...(व्यवधान)... कुल मिलाकर ऐसी स्थिति हो गई है। इन्होंने आत्मघातियों को जेलों से रिहा करना शुरू कर दिया है। ...(व्यवधान)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: What are you doing? ...(Interruptions)... Please sit down. ....(Interruptions)... Why do you disturb?

श्री प्रमोद तिवारी: आत्मघातियों के जेलों से रिहा होने के बाद हमारी सीमाओं पर जवान मारे जा रह हैं। यही नहीं, नक्सलवादी गतिविधियों से हमारे जवानों के हौसलों, उनके मनोबलों को तोड़ा जा रहा है। चाहे सरकार केन्द्र की हो या प्रदेश की हो, इसने आत्मघातियों के सामने घुटने टेक दिए है। इस सरकार में न दम है, न साहस है, न नैतिकता है कि यह उनका सामना कर सके। ये जो लोग छत्तीसगढ़ सरकार के इस कदम को जायज बता रहे हैं, मैं कहना चाहता हूँ। ...

(समाप्त)



MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Time over; Shri Ali Anwar Ansari....(Interruptions)...

श्री पी.एल. पुनिया (उत्तर प्रदेश) : सर, मैं इस विषय से एसोसिएट करता हूँ।

श्रीमती कहकशां परवीन (बिहार): सर, मैं इस विषय से एसोसिएट करती हूँ।

*Expunged as ordered by the Chair.
SHRIMATI RENUKA CHOWDHURY (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI ANANDA BHASKAR RAPOLU (TELANGANA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI MADHUSUDAN MISTRY (GUJARAT): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI B.K. HARIPRASAD (KARNATAKA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI PALVAI GOVARDHAN REDDY (TELANGANA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI K.K. RAGESH (KERALA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

SHRI RITABRATA BANERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by Shri Pramod Tiwari.

(Ends)


DEMAND FOR RELEASING FAMILY PENSION AND OTHER

BENEFITS TO WIDOW OF LATE MASOOD UMAR KHAN,

EMINENT EDUCATIONIST

श्री अली अनवर अंसारी (बिहार): उपसभापति महोदय, 73 वर्षीय एक विडो, जिनका नाम नूरसबा है, पिछले एक हफ्ते से जंतर-मंतर पर अनशन पर बैठी है। पिछले 35 साल से वह एक लड़ाई लड़ रही है और उनकी जो समस्या है वह लॉ एंड जस्टिस के जंगल में फंसी हुई है। उनके हस्बैंड, जिनका नाम मसूद उमर खां था, जो एक शिक्षाविद थे, एक शिक्षक थे। 35 साल हो गए, उनको पारिवारिक पेंशन नहीं मिली।

(1एफ/एमपी-एसके पर जारी)



MP-SK/1F/11.25

श्री अली अनवर अंसारी (क्रमागत) : उनको gratuity, बीमा, किसी तरह की राशि का भुगतान नहीं हुआ। वे एक हफ्ते से यहां बैठी हुई हैं। उनके पति को पद्मश्री पुरस्कार मिल चुका है और दर्जनों दूसरे पुरस्कार मिल चुके हैं। उन्होंने धमकी दी है कि हम इन पुरस्कारों को जलाएंगे और आत्मदाह करेंगे।

महोदय, यह बड़े अफसोस की बात है कि वे ज़िंदगी से... मेरे यहां कुछ लोग आए थे, तो मैं उनसे मिलने गया था और मैंने कहा कि आप इस तरह का काम मत कीजिए। दुनिया के सभी धर्मों में आत्महत्या से बढ़कर कोई पाप और गुनाह नहीं माना गया है। यह काम आप मत कीजिए, लेकिन वे रोने लगीं। वे दमा की पेशेंट हैं और वहां खुले आसमान के नीचे अपने बेटे के साथ बैठी हैं। वे रो रही हैं, कलप रही हैं कि बेटा, हम क्या करें? चीफ जस्टिस से लेकर हाई कोर्ट तक, पैंतीस साल से वे एक फॉल्स ऐफिडेविट के कारण.... एक किरानी को अगर घूस नहीं दीजिएगा, तो वह आपका केस बिगाड़ देगा, तो कहां-कहां उनको जाना पड़ता है ! उसने फॉल्स ऐफिडेविट देकर पेपर्स में शो कर दिया कि इनको पेंशन मिल गई है, जबकि उनको पेंशन नहीं मिली। महोदय, यह मामला है और वे रो रही हैं कि उनको देखने वाला कोई नहीं है। तो मेरा कहना है कि सरकार इस मामले में इंटरवीन करे। यह एक व्यक्ति का सवाल नहीं है, इस तरह से लोगों को कितनी परेशानी होती है, इसलिए सरकार इस मामले को देखे कि उसमें उनका क्या दोष है और इस मामले को निपटाए।

(समाप्त)

चौधरी मुनव्वर सलीम (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं इसके साथ एसोसिएट करता हूं।

چودھری منوّر سلیم (اتّر پردیش) : مہودے، میں اس کے ساتھہ ایسوسی-ایٹ کرتا ہوں۔

डा. अनिल कुमार साहनी (बिहार) : महोदय, मैं इस विषय के साथ स्वयं को सम्बद्ध करता हूं।

श्री गुलाम रसूल बलियावी (बिहार) : सर, मैं भी इस विषय के साथ स्वयं को सम्बद्ध करता हूं।

جناب غلام رسول بلیاوی (بہار): مہودے سر، میں بھی اس وشئے کے ساتھہ خود کو سمبدّھہ کرتا ہوں۔

श्री शरद यादव (बिहार) : श्रीमन्, माननीय सदस्य ने जो मामला उठाया है, मैं नेता सदन से अनुरोध करूंगा कि इनकी बात सुनी जाए। यह मामला इस ...(व्यवधान)...

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Sharadji, one second. ..(Interruptions).. If the plight narrated here of a widow is true, I believe it is true, it is serious. Take note of this.

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI ARUN JAITLEY): Sir, the details can be given to me. I will take it up with the concerned authorities.

(Ends)


DEMAND FOR CONFERRING BHARAT RATNA ON SHRI BIJU PATNAIK

SHRI A.U. SINGH DEO (ODISHA): Sir, Biju Patnaik is one leader who defines the fusion of courage, patriotism and vision in a single individual. Biju Patnaik loved his Odisha immensely and always endeavoured to bring back the glory of Kalinga. But his love for the nation was even greater. Without basking for glory, he single handedly lifted the prestige and honour of the country in international arena and displayed enormous courage to fight for the sovereignty of the country. He joined the Royal Indian Air Force and eventually became the head of Air Transport Command. While in service he took interest in nationalist politics and used the Air Force Transport. The Economist Magazine, April 24th 1997 issue, writes, "While flying over Indian soldiers under British command, he dropped bags of Gandhi's 'Quit India' leaflets to them. While on leave, he ferried independence leaders to secret meetings with their supporters. Mr. Patnaik's scarcely-concealed double life could not last. In 1943, he was arrested and jailed until 1946." His daring lifestyle continued even after independence. He started his own airlines and in 1947 carried soldiers on the request of Pandit Nehru into Kashmir when Pakistani tribesmen invaded Kashmir. This action is a unique display of a person's patriotism and commitment for sovereignty of the motherland.

Pandit Nehru considered the Indonesian war of independence as parallel to that of India. When Pandit Nehru organized the first Inter-Asia Conference in July, 1947, President Sukarno of Indonesia ordered his Prime Minister Syahrir to leave the country and attend the Conference to draw international public attention against the Dutch. But, as Syahrir was unable to leave as the Dutch controlled the Indonesian sea and air routes, Pandit Nehru asked Biju Patnaik to bring Syahrir to India. Though it was seemingly an impossible task, Biju Patnaik, assisted by his wife, Gyan Devi, flew an old Dakota aircraft to Jakarta. Despite attempts by Dutch forces to shoot him down, he entered Indonesian Air Force and landed on an airstrip in Jakarta. He flew out several rebel leaders, including Sutan Syahrir. The present generations see such daredevil acts only on the silver screen of Bollywood or Hollywood, but Biju Patnaik did this in 1947. He was a real life hero. The present generation has much to learn from his life and works.



(Contd. by BHS/1G)

-SK/BHS-SC/1G/11.30

SHRI A.U. SINGH DEO (CONTD.): For his dare devil act, Biju Patnaik was conferred the title of Bhoomiputra, the biggest title, or the son of the soil, by the Indonesian Government. He has made immense contribution to Panchayat Raj, women’s empowerment, industrialisation and education in Odisha. He established Kalinga Foundation to award international scientists through UNESCO for promoting science education.

Sir, you will be surprised to know that from the United Kingdom 10 people were awarded Kalinga Prize; from USA, 9 people were awarded Kalinga Prize; from France, 6 people were awarded Kalinga Prize; from Russia, five people each were awarded Kalinga Prize, and so on. Who’s who were awarded, like Julian Huxley and Bertrand Russell etc. ...(Interruptions)...



(Ends)

MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Time over. ...(Interruptions)... Time over.

SHRI GHULAM NABI AZAD (JAMMU & KASHMIR): Sir, I associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI JAIRAM RAMESH (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI BHUBANESWAR KALITA (ASSAM): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI PYARIMOHAN MOHAPATRA (ODISHA): Sir, I too associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI TAPAN KUMAR SEN (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI RITABRATA BANERJEE (WEST BENGAL): Sir, I too associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI K.K. RAGESH (KERALA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI DEVENDER GOUD T. (ANDHRA PRADESH): Sir, I too associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI ANUBHAV MOHANTY (ODISHA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI P.L. PUNIA (UTTAR PRADESH): Sir, I too associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI A.V. SWAMY (ODISHA): Sir, I too associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH (ODISHA): Sir, I also associate myself with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

श्री नरेश अग्रवाल (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

प्रो0 राम गोपाल यादव (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

श्री किरनमय नन्दा (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

श्री मोती लाल वोरा (छत्तीसगढ़) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

कुमारी शैलजा (हरियाणा) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करती हूं।

श्री प्रेम चन्द गुप्ता (झारखंड) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

चौधरी मुनव्वर सलीम (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

چودھری منوّر سلیم (اتّر پردیش) : مہودے، میں مانّئے سدسئے کے وکتوئے سےخود کو سمبدّھہ کرتا ہوں۔

श्री आलोक तिवारी (उत्तर प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

श्रीमती रेणुका चौधरी (आन्ध्र प्रदेश) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करती हूं।

श्री के.सी.त्यागी (बिहार) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करता हूं।

श्रीमती कहकशां परवीन (बिहार) : महोदय, मैं माननीय सदस्य के वक्तव्य से स्वयं को संबद्ध करती हूं।

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