of one letter (July 7, 1944 about royalties with Clarence's hand written
in the margins) from GSO to Clarence.
Parking is very tough with meters taking a quarter every 15 minutes if one
find a parking space. It takes them 24 hours to get an archive box, but as I
contacted them before I went, they had three boxes ready for me on Monday
I arrived. After I filled out some paperwork and left a photo ID card, as I
to each day, I then had access to one file at a time out of one box at a
They have TV monitors in all the rooms and I could see some very old
books on non-AA matters.
http://dl.lib.brown.edu/temperance/ is a site that deals with the temperance
pamphlets and they are moving to have more web access to such materials in
The library was undergoing personnel changes. I did not meet her, but my
contact was Tovah Reis. Library personnel indicated no real interest in AA
told me that if someone was interested say in posters or phamplets on
alcoholism, then it was their intention to have all availabe materials on
subject from a wide variety of sources with AA only being one of those
I asked if they might consider revising their web site description of the
coffee pot as the "Holy Grail of AA" amd was amswered with a no.
Below are some random observations.
I enjoyed the rifts and details over book royalties - Sue asking for Dr.
royalties; Clarence blasting away over Bill's payments; the request for
royalties on Living Sober by Barry Leach on March 7, 1982 for $191,416.54 ;
receiving a royalty check for $585.70 on 9/30/43 ; Bill not having a royalty
agreement until 1963; etc.
As I suspected there was little on Dr. Bob which was really the personal
of my trip. He did have a celebration put on by others on his 8th year in AA
1943 which was a grand party for 500 with a 10 piece orchestra, dancing, and
I got a real feel for Anne in the materials. She would say "would you
like to go
all the way with God?" Then she would ask them to kneel and surrender
husband to God. She organized a women's group in 1936. She said to surrender
your thoughts, possessions, emotions, relationships, and tongue.
Clarence blasted NY for permitting a 2nd AA group to be formed in Little
saying it could kill AA. Some non-alcoholics formed a group. Hank blistered
Clarence for not selling enough porcelain materials (they were in a ceramic
business?) because he was "messed up" with AA. There was a Camp in
in the Great Lakes for alcoholics to vacation.
A funny telegram on 4/22/40 to GSO said "Please send Rollie Hemsley
immediately 279 East 149 Street" and it had no city listed.
A letter saying "Our group has some money and is trying to decide what
with it." dated 7/20/44. They asked for a discount on books.
I'll end with a last unknown source quote "Excessive users of alcohol
come from families of poor hereditary stock."
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++++Message 3710. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Is AAWS tightening up
restrictions on reprinting?
From: John Lee . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/17/2006 1:03:00 PM
The Primary Purpose Website of Spartanburg, South
deleted several readings "by request of AA World
Services." Sounds like AAWS is policing the Internet,
similar to last year's attack on E-Bay users who were
selling AA related literature.
--- "Mitchell K."
> I got an e-mail from someone asking if I've heard
> that AAWS is pulling
> permission to reprint anything they "own." Grapevine
> articles, writing
> by Bill etc. He said that AAWS alone from now on
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++++Message 3711. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Clarence did not write program
for 1st Internat''l Conf.
From: ArtSheehan . . . . . . . . . . . . 9/17/2006 10:53:00 PM
This is a rather long message that I hope you find informative. It
contradicts a number of your assertions.
My e-mail statement was "This was all part of Clarence Snyder's claim
that the Cleveland Group was the first to use the term 'Alcoholics
Anonymous' to describe itself." I made no mention of Clarence writing
the program which described Cleveland as "the birthplace of our
movement." I simply posited and implied that he had influenced it as
part of his claim to primacy of the term "Alcoholics Anonymous." I