I have collected the Triennial A.A. Membership Survey pamphlets (P48)
from the 1983 "The A.A. Member" thru the "2004 Membership
I doubt any of you will be able to send me the actual pamphlets but
I would appreciate help getting the contents the 1968, 1971, 1974,
1977, and 1980 Triennial Survey results in whatever form is available.
For direct e-mail to me:
En2joy! Tom En2ger
++++Message 3036. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Data on 3 and 5 year survival
From: Jon Markle . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/7/2006 8:54:00 PM
As a clinician, I measure the "problem" by NOT how much or how
person drinks, but rather, the consequences . . . What happens when alcohol
taken into the body?
If there is significant disruption in any one area of a person's life (can
say "unmanageable"?), then there is a problem.
A "heavy drinker" may function without any problems. Where as a
very light or
occasional drinker (social?) may experience distinct difficulties that
their life in negative ways, not attributable otherwise to any other thing
the use of alcohol -- yet they continue to drink.
I believe the DSM-IV-TR is pretty clear about this definition and is not
dependent upon a specific "amount" or "frequency" as
criteria for diagnosis.
This fits with your summary of the noted passages from the AA literature.
> From: ArtSheehan (ArtSheehan at msn.com)
> beyond the point where we could quit on our will power. If anyone
> questions whether he has entered this dangerous area, let him try
> leaving liquor alone for one year. If he is a --[real alcoholic]-- and
> very far advanced, there is scant chance of success. In the early days
> of our drinking we occasionally remained sober for a year or more,
> becoming serious drinkers again later. Though you may be able to stop
> for a considerable period, you may yet be a potential alcoholic. We
> think few, to whom this book will appeal, can stay dry anything like a
> year. Some will be drunk the day after making their resolutions; most
> of them within a few weeks.
> Page 35: We told him what we knew of alcoholism and the answer we had
> found. He made a beginning. His family was re-assembled, and he began
> to work as a salesman for the business he had lost through drinking.
> All went well for a time, but he failed to enlarge his spiritual life.
> To his consternation, he found himself drunk half a dozen times in
> rapid succession. On each of these occasions we worked with him,
> reviewing carefully what had happened. He agreed he was a --[real
> alcoholic]-- and in a serious condition. He knew he faced another trip
> to the asylum if he kept on. Moreover, he would lose his family for
> whom he had a deep affection.
> Page 92: If you are satisfied that he is a --[real alcoholic]--, begin
> to dwell on the hopeless feature of the malady. Show him, from your
> own experience, how the queer mental condition surrounding that first
> drink prevents normal functioning of the will power. Don't, at this
> stage, refer to this book, unless he has seen it and wishes to discuss
> it. And be careful not to brand him as an alcoholic. Let him draw his
> own conclusion. If he sticks to the idea that he can still control his
> drinking, tell him that possibly he can-if he is not too alcoholic.
> But insist that if he is severely afflicted, there may be little
> chance he can recover by himself.
> Page 109: Two: Your husband is showing lack of control, for he is
> unable to stay on the water wagon even when he wants to. He often gets
> entirely out of hand when drinking. He admits this is true, but is
> positive that he will do better. He has begun to try, with or without
> your cooperation, various means of moderating or staying dry. Maybe he
> is beginning to lose his friends. His business may suffer somewhat. He
> is worried at times, and is becoming aware that he cannot drink like
> other people. He sometimes drinks in the morning and through the day
> also, to hold his nervousness in check. He is remorseful after serious
> drinking bouts and tells you he wants to stop. But when he gets over
> the spree, he begins to think once more how he can drink moderately
> next time. We think this person is in danger. These are the earmarks
> of a --[real alcoholic]--. Perhaps he can still tend to business
> fairly well. He has by no means ruined everything. As we say among
> ourselves, "He wants to want to stop."
++++Message 3037. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: "Bill formally divorced AA in
From: Jim . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/8/2006 1:02:00 AM
"... Bill formally divorced AA in 1955."
This is erroneous information. Bill was involved in AA at many and
various levels until he died. He was writing for the AA Grapevine
until 1970. He died in January 1971.
The following articles were written in December 1955 and December
The Finest Gift of All
Volume 12 Issue 7
EACH of us in AA has received the gift of sobriety. All of us have
found a new usefulness and most of us have found great happiness. This
adds up to the gift of life itself--a new life of wondrous possibility.
What then are we going to do with this great gift of life?
Because our experience has taught us, we are quite sure that we know.
We shall try to share with every fellow sufferer all that has been so
freely given us. We shall try to carry AA's message to those who need
and want it, wherever in the world they may be. We shall daily
re-dedicate ourselves to the God-given truth that "It is by