Book and it has to be on the program and how you enjoy living the program.
It's fast-moving and we just have a lot of fun. It's a great antidote for
What's the most important thing you've gotten from AA?
This whole thing is so much more than just sobriety. To be sober and
continue the life I had before--that would have driven me back to drink. One
of the things I really like about AA is that we all have a sense of
direction, plus a roadmap telling us precisely how to get there. I like
that. All I want out of AA is more and more and more until I'm gone.
++++Message 3506. . . . . . . . . . . . "Man of thirty" on page 32 of the
From: tflynn96 . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/20/2006 3:45:00 PM
Hello to all,
This question is regarding the "man of thirty" described on pg 32
the big book. I have just finished reading the book "Common Sense of
Drinking" by Richard Peabody. I am under the impression and it has
been suggested that the "man of thirty" story was adapted from
book. There was one story on pg 37 speaking of a man 36 yrs old and
had been drinking for 16 yrs and another on pg 123 regarding a man
who gave up drinking to make a million dollars.
Neither one of them match the story in the book. The story on pg 123
is the one that most closely matches the story in the book. The big
discrepancy in the story is the amount of sobriety this man had
(full text below). The big book speaks of 25 years of sobriety and
the other states he had 5 years sober.
My questions are:
1.Does anyone the "who" the actual man either book was referring
2.Was the story taken from CSoD or was he someone that was an
acquaintance of one of the early members?
3.Was the story in the BB a combination of both pg 37 and 123 along
with a misquote or was it more like a generalized idea that came
from CSoD along with "artistic license" while writing the BB (like
the 100 men and women statement)?
My assumption is they read the book, kind of jumbled up the 2
stories, put in 25 years to dramatize it and at the same time smash
home the fact that "once an alcoholic always an alcoholic". That
just my assumption and I am not a historian. Does anyone have any
other information regarding or can verify my assumption? Thank you
all in advance for your time.
"Some years ago there lived a man who decided to give up drinking
until he could make a million dollars, at which time he intended to
drink in moderation. It took him 5 years - of sobriety - to make
million; then he begins his "moderate" drinking. In two or three
alcoholism." From Common Sense of Drinking by Richard Peabody.
++++Message 3508. . . . . . . . . . . . Still Working Miracles (correction)
From: Bill Lash . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/22/2006 10:23:00 AM
(For those of you who don't know, Bill W. [after a failed business
deal in Akron OH] called Rev. Walter Tunks who gave him 10 phone
numbers because Bill was looking for an Oxford Group member who
knew of a drunk Bill could help. Bill called all 10 numbers but
Does anyone know the exact or approximate date that Bill W. and Hank P.
Kenneth Payne at Reader's Digest in the fall of 1938? According to AACA,
they were told that Reader's Digest would probably be interested in writing
AA and the book they were trying to publish. Thanks for the help.
++++Message 3510. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: "Man of thirty" on page 32 of