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Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 5:13 AM

Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Richard R. Peabody

> Can anyone give us any information on Richard R.

> Peabody and the part he played in alcoholism and AA.


> Thanks for your help.

++++Message 3482. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: My name is X

From: Cheryl F . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/12/2006 2:44:00 PM

Jim, see:
Grateful so I serve,
Cheryl F
Original message from: jamesoddname

To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:09 PM

Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] My name is X

When, where, and by whom did the practice begin of introducing ourselves at

meetings with the formula "My name is X and I'm an alcoholic"?

From the moderator: here are some of the best answers from Message 415:
From: "Jim Blair"

Date: Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:57 am

Subject: Fw: Qualifying at meetings
The following is the response I received from Judit Santon, Archivist at the


in N.Y., N.Y. concerning the practice of identifying.
Thank you for contacting us. It seems that this practice came from the


Group, where members used to get up and qualify as "My name is.... and

I'm a

sinner." Please note, that this information was shared with us by

oldtimers, and

we have never carried out a historic research with regards to the customs of


Oxford Group to verify this.
And Rick T. responded:
From: "ricktompkins"

Date: Mon Jul 15, 2002 9:44 pm

Subject: Re: [AAHistoryLovers] Sobriety Statement:

When did we start saying it?

Hi Group(s)!
Jim B. is correct, and like many current practices,

it did begin on the West Coast. Reading "How It Works"

also came from the West Coast (cal-i-for-ni-a) when

the group chairs looked around for something to read,

sometime in the 1940s...Before then (and since then,

too), many Groups had their own special preambles,

greetings, lead-off texts (the beginning of Chapter 3

was another), and so on.

More from the moderator:
Sgt. Bill S. SAAA1948@aol.com (SAAA1948 at aol.com)

is an AA oldtimer who got sober in 1948 on Long Island, just outside New


City, but also attended AA meetings in a part of Ohio near Akron a couple of

years before that point. He later got to spend a year in Akron talking with

Sister Ignatia every chance he got. He knows oldtime AA on the East Coast,


the Akron area, in Texas, and in California.



Bill says that the early practice on the East Coast in the New York City


was to introduce oneself by saying "My name is X" and then give

your sobriety

date. His memory is that saying "My name is X and I'm an

alcoholic" was

originally more midwestern.
Sgt. Bill, who lives in Sonoma, California, is still very active in AA, and


around speaking to AA conferences and groups, and attending AA get-togethers

(most recently the Gathering of the Eagles in Dallas, and Founders Day in

Akron). He spoke as the keynote speaker at the National Archives Workshop in

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, in 2003, replacing his good friend Searcy, who was


his deathbed.

Glenn Chesnut, Moderator

South Bend, Indiana

++++Message 3483. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"

From: Kimball . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/12/2006 7:05:00 PM

The story of Dave B., one of the founders of A.A. in Canada in 1944.
Dave Bancroft b. Jun 25, 1908, Toronto, Canada, d. Dec 9, 1984, Montreal,

Canada. m Dorothy Ford. Sobriety Apr 7, 1944. Founder A.A. Montreal Canada,

1st French members. He sobered up by reading a copy of the Big Book his


sent him. Served as a Class B Trustee from 1962-1964. Dr Dancy, who treated

Dave for alcoholism, went on to become the first Class A (nonalcoholic)


from Canada, serving from 1965-1974.

----- Original Message -----

From: Henry

To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:50 AM

Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"
I would be grateful if anyone can give me any information on Dave B ,

the writter of "Gratitude in Action" in the fourth edition of the



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++++Message 3484. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: When did the term "alcoholism"

first start to be used?

From: Billlwhite@AOL.COM . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 9:13:00 AM
The term alcoholism was coined by Swedish physician Magnus Huss in 1849.

After detailing the multiple organ systems affected by chronic alcohol


Huss noted:

"These symptoms are formed in such a particular way that they form a


group in themselves and thus merit being designated and described as a

definite disease. "It is this group of symptoms which I wish

to designate by

the name

Alcoholismus chronicus."
The reference for this work is: Huss, M. (1849). Alcoholismus

chronicus: Chronisk alcoholisjudkom: Ett bidrag till dyskrasiarnas


Stockholm: Bonner/Norstedt.

The term alcoholism showed up occasionally in the Journal of Inebriety

in the late 1800s but did come into widespread professional use until the

early 1900s and did not achieve wide cultural popularity until the


century. It is interesting to note that the use of the term is currently in

decline in professional circles and seems to be getting displaced by the

broader term addiction in the culture at large.
Bill White
In a message dated 6/13/2006 12:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

hayntra@aol.com writes:

> Subj: [AAHistoryLovers] When did the term "alcoholism" first

start to be

> used?

> Date: 6/13/2006 12:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> From: hayntra@aol.com

> Reply-to: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com

> To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com

> Sent from the Internet




> Hi history lovers,

> Can anyone help us with the term alcoholism?

> When did this did word first begin to be used

> instead of dypsomania and who coined the term?

> Thanks for you help in this matter.







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++++Message 3485. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: How many people did Bill W


From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 4:19:00 PM
At 10:41 6/11/2006 , Carl P. wrote:
>Hi history lovers, I am standing in for trixiebellaa

>for a week and our study group have asked, how many

>people did bill w sponsor?
This is not a direct answer but is about Bill W's sponsoring.
Francis Hartigan, in his book "Bill W., A Biography of Alcoholics


Cofounder Bill Wilson," says pp. 191-192, ". . . many a dazzled


after a ten-minute conversation with Bill at an AA meeting, would ask him

to be their sponsor, and invariably, Bill would agree. Soon the newcomers

would find that, compared to other people's sponsors, theirs was hardly

ever available."

So while he may have sponsored a number of people, he was for the most part

unavailable to them, and, by inference, a poor sponsor.

Tommy H in Baton Rouge
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++++Message 3486. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Dave B., "Gratitude in Action"

From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/13/2006 4:40:00 PM

At 06:50 6/7/2006 , you wrote:
>I would be grateful if anyone can give me any information on Dave B ,

>the writter of "Gratitude in Action" in the fourth edition of

the Big



Hi Henry.

There used to be a web site that had the authors of the stories in the back

of the Big Book and a brief bio, but I tried to access it just now and get

an error msg. This site was run by an A.A. group in Baltimore. It's url


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