Where do Rochambeau students go?



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Where do Rochambeau students go?

  • France
  • Canada: 11 students (18%)
    • McGill (4)
    • Concordia (2)
    • HEC Montreal (2)
    • Royal Military University of Canada
    • Université de Montreal
    • University of Ottawa

Where do Rochambeau students go?

  • USA: 22 students including three premieres (36%)
  • Carnegie Mellon University, Chatham University, Colgate University, Harvard University, Northern Virginia Community College, Purdue University, Smith College, Stanford University, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Miami-Dade Community College, University of Rochester
  • University of Virginia (2)
  • New York University (3)
  • University of Maryland College Park (6)

Where do Rochambeau students go?

    • Italy: Universita Bocconi
    • Turkey: Koc University
    • UK: 4 students (7%)
    • Royal Holloway, University of London
    • University of Edinburgh
    • University of the Arts London
    • University of Warwick
    • Gap year: 2 students

Language: Quebec, Ottawa, few others offer programs in French

  • Language: Quebec, Ottawa, few others offer programs in French
  • 3- or 4-year bachelor’s degrees
  • Some flexibility allowed to sample and change
  • Huge range of majors/programs, highly qualified faculty
  • Easier to work during university
  • Easy application process: grades earned, grades at Bacc
  • No SAT required (often TOEFL or IELTS needed). Often, no essay required.
  • Later deadlines except for McGill (Jan 15th); most are Feb. 1-15
  • Relatively low cost: US citizens can sometimes use US financial aid

Many universities are very large

    • Many universities are very large
    • Except for Quebec, not much financial aid for non-Canadians, non-US
    • Quebec: Usually enter in 2nd year, so program is 3 years, not 4; must be pretty sure what you want to study
    • Quebec: With 2nd year entry, there’s virtually no time to get adjusted. You need to make good grades right away.
  • More information: www.aucc.ca, www.considercanada.org, www.macleans.com

Canada - Admission process

  • Canada:
    • Jan. 15th McGill; others: February 1 – 15th
    • All-online process
    • Basic information & application fee
    • School sends bulletins/transcripts
    • Admission based mostly on grades earned
    • Must choose faculties
      • McGill: apply to 2; can be accepted to 2, then choose
      • Concordia: 3 choices, in rank order; accepted to 1
      • Univ de Montreal: 2 choices
      • For limited enrollment programs, a “letter of motivation” or portfolio is needed
      • Sometimes must apply for housing at same time

Canada - Admission process

Not expected to know what you want to study; allows for self-discovery, experimentation

  • Not expected to know what you want to study; allows for self-discovery, experimentation
  • Great flexibility: combine majors, study abroad; work experience
  • HUGE range of institutions nationwide:
  • 3,000+ depending on many factors
  • Full range of services: help with work experience, job application, resume writing, academic advising, personal counseling, health services

US Universities

  • Advantages:
  • State-of-the-art facilities, often
  • Highly qualified faculty
  • Real sense of community: can live on campus, join sports, many activities
  • Extensive financial aid for US citizens and permanent residents; sometimes aid for non-US
  • When you’re in, you’re in unless your grades drop drastically
  • Disadvantages:
  • Expense compared to other countries
  • Complicated admission process
  • So many that it may be difficult to choose

US system: same but different

  • US system: same but different
  • At both, you can earn your 4-year Bachelor’s degree
  • Universities have colleges within them OR colleges can be free-standing
  • Equal education, different setting
  • Colleges: usually undergraduate only; liberal arts
  • Universities: 4-year colleges but also have master’s, PhD, law, medicine programs; undergraduate “professional” schools
  • Admission is the same

Complex set of factors used

  • Complex set of factors used
    • Grades: most important
    • Standardized tests (usually)
    • Teacher and counselor recommendations
    • Essays
    • Extracurricular activities
    • Personal circumstances or talents
    • Early Decision/Early Action/Regular Decision
    • November 1, January 1, January 15
    • Financial aid: usually by Feb 1

US Universities - Admission

  • Go to university’s website to determine app process
  • Some have their own app; others use Common App
  • Common Application: 400+ colleges/universities
  • Submit online: personal info, 1 essay, activities, app fee
  • Supplemental essays: depends on school; may be 2 to 4
  • SAT/ACT/Subject Tests/TOEFL: your responsibility; have testing service send them to your universities
  • Deadlines: November 1st UMD, Early Decision/Early Action
  • Regular decision: January 1 – 15th

US Universities - Admission

  • Receive decisions by April 1: offer (admit), waitlist, deny
  • Have 1 month to choose your university
  • Choose ONLY ONE! Very important.
  • May 1: Pay deposit to hold your place
  • Tell me or Mme. Bessaha which one
  • Mme. Bessaha sends final results in July
  • Do NOT make a deposit at two places!

Many options

  • Many options
  • Foundation programs: usually 1 year; often in Art & Design—don’t always need Bacc
  • Bachelor’s degrees: Need Bacc
  • 3 years –England, Wales, N. Ireland
  • 4 years –Scotland
  • “Sandwich” courses include work, 4 or 5 years
  • Must apply to study a specific subject, like in France
  • Course selection. This is the most difficult part! You need to be passionate about a particular subject.

UK Universities - Advantages

  • 3-year bachelor’s degrees (except Scotland)
  • Good for those who know what they want to study (for example, can begin law or medicine right away)
  • Usually have student services similar to US, like work placement, study abroad, health services, and academic advising
  • Housing on campus for 1st year, non-UK students
  • Student culture more European, easy access to Europe
  • Low tuition cost for qualified EU citizens/residents

UK Universities - Disadvantages

  • Expensive if not EU citizen/resident
  • Admission is sometimes more difficult for EU citizens/residents, because of high demand
  • Very little financial aid
  • Difficult to switch courses; initial course selection is very important
  • Many universities are very large; housing is less uniform than in US
  • Often exam-based
  • Admission is firmly tied to Bacc scores

Go to www.ucas.com and set up account

  • Go to www.ucas.com and set up account
  • Apply through a school or college
  • Buzzword: frenchinternational
  • Student chooses courses (maximum of 5), selects French bacc curriculum, enters personal statement
  • Student/parent pays application fee by credit card
  • Ms. Parliman adds recommendations and predicted grade, and submits online
  • Lycee mails regular dossier
  • Oct 15th: Oxford/Cambridge/med/vet
  • All others: Jan 15th
  • Recommended: by November 30th

UK Universities - Admission

  • Unlike US and Canada, admission decisions are often made as soon as application is received
  • Earlier application = better chances in some programs
  • Admission is conditional on final Bacc score
  • May: choose 1 firm, 1 insurance
  • Tell Mme. Bessaha your 2 choices
  • July: School sends final Bacc results to the two choices
  • You attend your first choice if points are obtained

Europe

  • Europe
  • Many US-style, English-speaking programs in Europe
  • 4-year programs (i.e. American University of Paris, Franklin College-Switzerland)
  • www.aco.eu.com
  • Also: 3-year European programs taught in English
  • Netherlands: Utrecht, Maastricht, Erasmus, and others especially for business & economics
  • Bocconi: Milan
  • Jacobs University: Bremen
  • Ireland: Trinity College, Univ College, Cork

Switzerland

  • www.crus.ch
  • www.crus.ch.doc.iud/Studying.pdf
    • Booklet in English about Swiss universities
    • Language proficiency (German, French, Italian) will be required in most undergraduate programs
    • Exceptions: Ecole Hoteliere de Lausanne: Program in English or French; Glion; others
    • Computer science: Lugano— program in English

Study in English worldwide

  • Australia/ New Zealand: 3 years; similar to UK; need Bacc
  • Hong Kong, Singapore: 3 or 4 years
  • Many US universities now have campuses in the Middle East, offering bachelor’s degrees or master’s degrees:
    • Qatar: Carnegie-Mellon, Cornell, Georgetown, Texas A & M
    • Dubai: Michigan State, Rochester Inst.of Technology
    • Abu Dhabi: NYU
    • Japan: Temple University (US)
    • China, Malaysia: Univ of Nottingham (UK)

Very important for any university

  • Very important for any university
  • US: Grades from 4eme through end of 1ere. February: mid-year grades from 1st trimester
  • UK: Predicted Bacc total by November (or earlier, if you do an early application in September or October); also a transcript
  • Canada: Bulletins/transcripts sent in December, January, or February
  • Get Bulletins from previous school(s) if you are new to Rochambeau: from Quatrieme

SAT and ACT: Used for most US universities and some in Europe

  • SAT and ACT: Used for most US universities and some in Europe
  • Can take either test. Offered in MD, DC, VA.
  • Some US universities do not require SAT/ACT
    • www.fairtest.org: List of universities not requiring SAT/ACT
  • Most competitive: require 2 or 3 SAT Subject Tests
  • Prepare: Test websites have sample tests
  • Aim for 600 or better on each part
  • For most competitive universities, aim for 700 each part
  • ACT: aim for 29 - 31 total points out of 36

TOEFL: www.toefl.org

  • TOEFL: www.toefl.org
  • IELTS: www.ielts.org
  • Short essay, listening, speaking, multiple-choice grammar questions. Four hours.
  • Usually required by US, Canada, Australia if you are not a native speaker and have been in the US three years or less
  • UK doesn’t require it, usually
  • Given in Bethesda, other local areas
  • Prep books and programs available
  • Will add favorably to your application

UK: BMAT for medical school, LNAT for some law schools

  • UK: BMAT for medical school, LNAT for some law schools
  • Tests given at the school. Ms. Parliman will register you at your request.
  • Tell Ms. Parliman early in terminale if you want UK med, law, Oxford/Cambridge: October 15th deadline
  • Art schools: may require portfolio for studio art/design, sometimes an interview
  • Music schools: live audition or audition CD
  • Drama: live audition or audition CD
  • Sometimes: interview of shortlisted candidates (UK), alumni interview (US)

Personal statement, essays; “lettre de motivation”

  • Personal statement, essays; “lettre de motivation”
  • For most: Focus on why you want to study your intended course, goals, why you want to study at this university
  • US: Goals, personal info
  • References: 2 from teachers; 1 from university counselor. For all students


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